'You don't like being on TV with brown people': Labour peer clashes with Reform MP

Speaking to presenter Anna Botting as part of Sky News’s Makerfield byelection coverage, the Labour peer Thangam Debbonaire and the Reform MP Sarah Pochin clashed during a tense interview after an exchange about an undisclosed £5m personal gift accepted by Nigel Farage in 2024. Subscribe to Guardian News on YouTube ► https://www.youtube.com/user/guardianwires?sub_confirmation=1 Pochin claimed the Reform leader had received the gift before he was in politics. Debbonaire, who tried to interject several times, refuted the claim, saying: 'You have been interrupting me all night, Sarah, and now you’re just talking rubbish.' Labour peer and Reform MP clash over ‘brown people’ and domestic abuse ► https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/jun/19/labour-peer-thangam-debbonaire-reform-mp-sarah-pochin-clash-makerfield UK politics – live updates ► https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2026/jun/18/makerfield-byelection-keir-starmer-andy-burnham-robert-kenyon-labour-leadership-reform-aberdeen-arbroath-uk-politics-latest-news-updates The Guardian publishes independent journalism, made possible by supporters. Contribute to The Guardian today ► https://support.theguardian.com/ Sign up to the Guardian's free new daily newsletter, First Edition ► http://theguardian.com/first-edition Website ► https://www.theguardian.com Facebook ►https://www.facebook.com/theguardian Instagram ► https://instagram.com/guardian Bluesky ► https://bsky.app/profile/theguardian.com The Guardian on YouTube: The Guardian ► https://www.youtube.com/@theGuardian Guardian Australia ► https://www.youtube.com/@guardianaustralia Football Weekly podcast ► https://www.youtube.com/@footballweeklypodcast Guardian Football ► https://www.youtube.com/@guardianfootball Guardian Sport ► https://www.youtube.com/@guardiansport It's Complicated ► https://www.youtube.com/@itscomplicated Guardian Live ► https://www.youtube.com/@guardianlive #makerfield #politics #reformuk #sarahpochin #thangamdebbonaire