DHS Secretary Markwayne Mullin on Loyalty, Leadership & His Close Relationship With Donald Trump

Markwayne Mullin, now serving as U.S. Secretary of Homeland Security, joins 13th & Park for a wide-ranging conversation on the forces shaping America’s future — from energy dominance and AI-driven power needs to tribal sovereignty, economic pressure on working families, and the personal story that forged his approach to public service. This episode was previously recorded on December 10, 2025 and is being re-released in honor of his new position. A Cherokee Nation citizen, rancher, and lifelong entrepreneur, Mullin discusses why Congress must recruit leaders with real-world experience, how permitting reform is holding back U.S. energy capacity, and why America’s ability to compete in the next era of data, defense, and AI depends on unleashing domestic production. He also reflects on the deeply personal moment when President Trump intervened to help his critically injured son, a story that illustrates a side of Trump rarely seen publicly — and one that shaped Mullin’s understanding of loyalty, leadership, and service. Follow Sen. Markwayne Mullin X: https://twitter.com/SenMullin Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/senmullin Youtube: @senmullin Follow 13th & Park YouTube: https://youtube.com/@13thandPark Instagram: https://instagram.com/13thandpark X: https://x.com/13thandPark Follow Ballard Partners Website: https://ballardpartners.com X: https://x.com/BallardFirm Listen on Audio Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4H2P2nzYVP Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/13th-park About 13th and Park: 13th and Park is a dynamic media platform produced by Ballard Partners. We bring you insightful discussions, expert interviews, and in-depth analysis on key issues shaping industries, policy, and business trends. Our content features thought leaders, industry experts, and policymakers exploring topics ranging from policy influence, business innovation, trade regulations, and more. Subscribe to stay updated on the latest videos, exclusive interviews, and expert insights shaping the future of business, policy, and public affairs. #MarkwayneMullin #13thAndPark #EnergyPolicy #TribalSovereignty #AmericanPolitics #Congress #BallardPartners #Oklahoma #EnergyDominance #AIInfrastructure